Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama are what my mother called "Frick and Frack" on the Culture of Death.

All one has to do is listen to their messages to Planned Parenthood. They are both horrible candidates for the informed Catholic, other Christian, other person of faith or any people of good will who recognize the primacy of Life as more than an "issue" but a lens through which we must view all issues.Without the right to life the entire structure of human rights is at risk.

Good piece Deal.

Great article and very clear. If the last two elections did not "deliver the message" may be this one will: Crime does not pay. The crime of promoting and supporting abortion is no exception to that old rule. The Democratic Party has to go back to its Jacksonian roots and return to be the advocate for the little guy. Abortionists and promoters of degeneracies are anchor babies that the Democrats can no longer afford to keep around.

Additionally, another voting group--Hispanic Catholics--will eventually realize that this is no longer the party of Cesar Chavez and has become the party of Margaret Sanger, the same who called immigrants: "...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born."

It would be ironic if the party that chose to support abortion ends up being killed by demographics.

I think that Obama will run very well with Catholics, because the only one who will "lose' the Catholic vote will be McCain.

The last four paragraphs make this point. I know several Catholic voters who like Obama. They know that he is pro-abortion (as are all Democrats), yet they are still thinking about voting for him. McCain's position on the was bothers them. And in their mind, the war and abortion balance each other out. Factor in the adulation that Obama gets from the media, and the scales tip his way.

Deal, you have written a good piece.
Obama (as Hillary) will bring about the final socialization of the American health care system. If health care is a government function paid for by tax dollars, how on earth are you going to oppose or ban abortion at these governmental facilities unless you can convince a congress or president to do so. Good luck!
With John McCain we will get another neoconservative dominated administration intent on making further war in the Middle East and elsewhere. McCain, like most modern Republicans, speaks the language of smaller government while bringing about the opposite. We now have a president who, at this moment, is calling for further governmental power to spy on us!
If John McCain can cut, paste, squeeze and fit the Iraq War into some form of rationalization of Just War theory that theory will have become meaningless and should simply be scrapped.

The bishops themselves in their Faithful Citizenship document provide all the cover Obama needs to convince Catholics that it is morally permissible to vote for him. What, after all, was Sr Mary Ann's first objection to Feuerherd's op-ed? We are not one-issue voters! We look at all the issues!

No one is in doubt about what the "one-issue" is so if the bishops reject the suggestion that this issue should determine their vote why would rank and file Catholic Democrats believe otherwise? I still think your initial reaction to the bishops document was correct: a gift to the Democrat party.

I'm not even a radical anti-abortionist (anti, but not radical). How someone can equate abortion and the Irag war is beyond me. Let's see ... 4,000 dead over 5+ years VS. 1.2 million dead every year. I don't mean to dimish our troops lives .. for I pray all will be safe, honorable and successful .. but geesh. In my book, our leader must be able to deal with the very difficult world, domestically and internationanally. But, as a free enterprise capitalist ... do not interject governmental solutions that are inefficient and wasteful compared to that of letting economies operate - and adjust naturally.

In your article you quote Sr. Mary Ann Walsh retort to Mr. Feuerherd concerning: ... anti-immigrant sentiment..

I feel the need to admonish the good Sister on helping to continue the confusion in this country on the issue of ILLEGAL immigration.

There is a very definite negative sentiment in this country concerning ILLEGAL immigrants/immigration. I may add that this is a righteous indignation. However, no one that I know of, has an issue with legal immigrants or immigration.

The issue is whether it is right for the Catholic Church to hide, coddle, or imbue rights which don't exist to ILLEGAL immigrants.

Legal immigration is what made the United States the strong country that it is. Add to this our propensity to abide by the rule-of-law. Illegal immigrants coming to the USA love this country so much, that as their first official act in this country is to break our laws! Let’s also be clear here. A country has every right to maintain the method for proper immigration. It is right, for the health and welfare of its citizens, for a country to maintain secure boarders. And it is right for the same country to prosecute those who break those laws. This is reasonable and the Catholic Church as a whole should embrace this stance.

The Church has been ordered by our Lord Jesus Christ to clothe the naked, feed the poor, give drink to the thirsty, and shelter the homeless. And we should continue to do all these things. It becomes then the question of how.

Should The Church wish to put its money where its mouth is, then The Church should set up large shelters in the countries of origin for immigrants who are waiting to come to the USA legally. They should also provide legal advice and documentation preparation to help these people navigate the legal immigration process.

The Church should NOT confirm people in the sin of the breaking of valid civil laws or protect them from the lawful prosecution of same.

Our Lady and her Holy husband Joseph did as they were commanded by their government. They traveled by donkey to Bethlehem, the land of Joseph’s fathers to be counted and taxed. Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Himself paid taxes and ordered us to do the same. "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's." He could have just as easily have said that there is no law but Himself, and he had the authority to say such a thing as he is God...but he did not!

We should follow these Holy examples of citizenry.

Jay: I can understand that no prosperous country has the obligation to admit into its borders all the poor in the world. That would collapse any country no matter how smart and rich their inhabitants may be. Yet we are a different country, one that was founded on the (then) outrageous proposition that: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness..."
Now, you are absolutely right when you say that the Church should be involved in ordering this process and being part of the solution. What follows to that excellent proposal of yours is the question: Who is the Church? The answer, you know it very well, is "you and me and every Christian". But I would add to that the adjective "American". Margaret Thatcher said that "Europe is the product of History but America is the product of ideas." John Paul II said clearly: "If you want peace, work for justice." America has a clear choice today: either we become a beacon of liberty and life, or we turn ourselves into another piece of territory with a piece of cloth at the end of a stick for a flag. Either we mean business or become the largest assortment of pharisees ever assembled in one place. Those illegals like "José" would have never been here if we would have not killed "Joey" in the womb. Illegals come to fill a void and many businesses hire them either because they have no one else to hire for the job, or because they can exploit them paying them less than fair wages. Once hired the illegals pay taxes--for example Social Security and Medicare contributions--that they will never be able to recover. Their contributions help you and me to contribute less to the pool, while their work also make our life cheaper, elevating our standard of living at the cost of the dignity of another human being: illegal or not. So we compound one crime (abortion) by promoting another crime (illegal immigration). And then we get all self-righteous and decry the cheek of those Mexicans who dare to come here illegally (even when our own practices and lifestyle created the enticements that attracted them here). Remember the admonition of Deuteronomy 23:8 "Do not despise an Egyptian because you were a stranger in his land." With the exception of Native Americans, we all descend from someone who found refuge in this land. Our business now is not to close America's doors to the needy but to take the American ideals of freedom, self-rule and human dignity to the whole world. Starting by not denying the right to life to any American. Not easy but not impossible, and certainly a more dignified destiny for us than to enjoy an island of prosperity in a world of injustice and despair.

I agree with Jay, and most Kansans in general, that the church should get in the middle
of immigration processing with facilities, resources and parishoners on both sides of the border. Excellent idea.

You are right on Jay!

Deal, great piece! Thanks for including the following:

"Finally, Catholics who support Obama will take McCain to task for his support for the war in Iraq. They will argue, wrongly, that the pope and the Vatican officially condemned the war (meaning that Bush, McCain, and the whole GOP "went against" the Church in going to war)."

It is refreshing to see that someone has the integrety to point that there is a misconception about Church teaching and this war. It is simply intellectually lazy to oppose this war on the basis that all wars are wrong.

And Dave,

Catholic democrates ?
2008-02-28 13:26:26
I'm not even a radical anti-abortionist (anti, but not radical). How someone can equate abortion and the Irag war is beyond me. Let's see ... 4,000 dead over 5+ years VS. 1.2 million dead every year. I don't mean to dimish our troops lives .. for I pray all will be safe, honorable and successful .. but geesh. In my book, our leader must be able to deal with the very difficult world, domestically and internationanally. But, as a free enterprise capitalist ... do not interject governmental solutions that are inefficient and wasteful compared to that of letting economies operate - and adjust naturally.

What a great point! Thanks

TED

For too long Church liberals created an equivilance in moral issues vis-a-vis Cardinal Bernadine's "seamless garment" philosophy. Homelessness, poverty, child abuse, the minimum wage, abortion, etc. were all threads from the same garment.

This philosophy served as a banquet for cafeteria Catholics who picked and chose their pet issue and supported any number of noxious liberal elected officials who similtaneously claimed to be faithful Catholics! It created nauseating cover for countless "Catholic" Democrats with 100% support for NARAL, eg. Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Barbara Mikulski, etc.

Fortunately, the Holy Father has recently stated that all these issues are NOT equal. In much the same way the severity of offense and consequence of action of an eight year old stealing $3.00 from his mother's purse is light-year's different from a hedge fund manager bilking investor's out of millions, so too the Church has correctly and courageously cited abortion - - with 50 million dead in the U.S.A. alone dead since 1973 - - as a greater, if not the greatest moral evil of our time.

That said, Sr. Mary Ann Walsh and the USCCB are off base. Abortion IS to our generation what slavery WAS to the mid-19th century. And while the Church should always pursue good in the related issues cited by the good Sister, the wrath of God Almighty awaits those who flaunt this modern day holocaust.

John McCain has to shore up his pro-life credentials, make the case for Just-War compliance (where possible) and advocate the swiftest strategy possible to extract us from the Middle East.

As always, good, faithful Catholics need to commit these critical matters to prayer, fasting, the intersession of the Blessed Mother and the protection of St. Joseph.

It's time to step of to the plate and put our Catholic faith into action. Pray and then vote.

Who on the two western hemisphere continents called North America and South America are not Americans?

Teri B, your "one world view" drivel will soon become out of fashion and you once again have to reinvent yourself in order to try to be relavant. In the mean time (to anser your question)as a matter of fact and for the sake of any intellegent discussion on illegal immigration; everyone who is not a citizen of the United States of America i not an American. They may be Canadians or Mexicans or Argentineans but not necessarily Americans.

Ted,

Pay attention to your manners and, please, to your spelling. It's "relevant", "answer" and "intelligent" for starts. Calling someone's contribution "drivel" is unnecessarily rude, especially when that someone is a lady.

Calling ourselves "Americans" is an odd way of appropriating the continent to ourselves. Semantically though, all those who are native of the American Continent are American even if they are not citizens of the United States of America. Yet we call ourselves "Americans".

A Swiss friend of mine, not really versed in the English language, explained that, saying: "It's an American odium" A cute mispronunciation that may have betrayed a great truth.

Carlos,

Thank you for spell checking my work. Rerhaps now you should reread it for content. If you have trouble understanding it I can try to rewrite it in a more elementary format. Or perhaps you can find a map and trace your fingers around the boarders of the country United States of America, which is within the Continent of North America. Something you may have learned in school if you had not spent so much time perfecting your spelling skills.

TED

Others have pointed out that Sr. Walsh's response to Feuerherd's obscene article was focussed primarily on demonstrating that "we are not a one-issue Church," or "Look at all the liberal positions the bishops take" rather than clarifying the issue he labored so hard to obscure.

One of the factors militating against clarity regarding abortion is the bishops' practice of taking positions on matters regarding which Catholics are perfectly at liberty to disagree. Every time the bishops do that, they squander their teaching authority. They abuse it, in fact. They don't speak for the Magisterium, and they don't speak for me. They speak only for themselves, a group of mostly liberal citizens. But they get attention for these personal opinions because of their office in the Church. That's an abuse of their office.

On public policy matters, bishops should issue ONLY statements about which they can legitimately say: "Disagree with this, and you are no longer in communion with the Catholic Church."

If they followed this rule, their statements would be listened to. And the pro-abortion Catholics would be deprived of the "seamless garment" hoax: "I disagree with the bishops on choice, but I'm with them on these fifteen other [trivial] issues."

Anyone who thinks this is a just war would disagree with John Paul II. Whether it was official church doctrine or not is just semantics. Wrong is wrong. You feel your judgment, conscience, and intellect are superior to John Paul II's?

From

http://tinyurl.com/cmqk4

quoting then Cardinal Ratzinger:

I've been curious about why Obama was drawing less support from Catholics than Clinton, so it was interesting to read your article.

How much effect will the controversial John Hagee endorsement of McCain have on Catholics? Will the critical statements by Bill Donohoe at the Catholic League and Catholics United cause Catholics to look at McCain differently now?

Dear Ted, darling,

I soooo enjoyed your response. It's just what I was fishing for. My comment was an experiment and you went for it. Good job.
I made the comment to inspire other questions like, "Who is my brother?" "Who is a part of the universal Church?" "Who's body was Mother Teresa healing and in how many ways?"

Immigration is a complex issue. Get involved with the dialog after the election. Make sure its not relegated to the ash heap of political election discourse and emotional hot-button rhetoric.

On Obama --
I don't care how many times, in how many election cycles I hear the rhetoric he uses.
Its always fresh and new.

I hope you're smiling Ted, darling.
You to, Carlos... and thank you.

Typos Alert!

"Sooooo" was phonetically spelled. It should have been "so enjoyed."

Also "You to, Carlos" should have been,
"You too, Carlos... and thank you."

Reyes, thank you for posting that quote from then Cardinal Ratzinger -- it takes the truth plainly: As individuals both John Paul II and the now Benedict XVI did not think Iraq was a "just war." But they never "condemned" it officially in the name of the "Vatican." Do I think my intellect is superior to those popes? Of course not! But I'm not going to feel obliged to conform my mind to very prudential judgment they have made or will make. And I'm sure they don't expect such mindlessness on our part.

Actually when it come to family values, the war in Iraq or abortion, neither Obama nor Clinton nor McCain can be acceptable from the Catholic perspective. Clinton, if you recall, was in favor of so called "partial birth abortions". McCain divorced his first wife, and married a younger, arguably more attractive woman. Obama has stated that he accepts the pro abortion status quo. Only candidate who is by far closest to Catholic values is Ron Paul. Ron Paul, the 10 term Texas Congressman, has been married to the same woman, his only wife, for about 50 years. Further, Ron Paul voted against the war in Iraq and, though Ron Paul is a gynecologist by training, he has expressed his pro life values.

I have always been astounded that a Christian could consider voting for a pro-abortion candidate. What could be as horrific as the intentional murder of the most innocent and most vulnerable among us? Who could be more deserving of our protection, than the tiny and helpless child in the womb of his or her mother?

There is still a chance for America. The Supreme Court is numerically near the possibility of judgments of reason, concerning issues of life. There is a chance of return to sanity; there is a chance of return toward a culture of life. But as long as it is legal to murder the most innocent, no life can be assured of protection; no value is safe.

The Democrats may yet awaken - but so far they have not. Until that day, to give them power is to fall even further into darkness. The world cannot afford that for America.

The social decay you see today - evident in the incredible amount of school shootings - is precisely because we as a society have lost sight of the value and dignity of life. Catholics who are learned people on this matter must take a stand and fight for reform!

The unwillingness to acknowledge life begins at conception and has worth even within the womb is sending, and will continue, to send the wrong message to our children. And we MUST NOT continue to back candidates that promote this dangerous mentality!

Obama and Clinton are on par in regards to this - they both have an agenda and court Planned Parenthood. Neither want to acknowledge life begin at conception, both want to keep religion out of schools, and as a result our children will continue to grow up in a godless society where the value of life is no more important than those in a video game!

If we want to stop the violence - at home and abroad - we must address the kep problem, and that's abortion. We must teach our children to protect those that have no voice, and to cherish every life as a gift that must be treated with respect and dignity.

What is deamed illegal by a "country" is not necessarily immoral. The idea of a "country" such as USA, Canada, or Mexico was a product of the selfish and anti-Catholic Enlightenment several hundred years ago. In the scriptures Catholics are called to be hospitable to the traveller and to help his neighbour in need, not to make artificial political borders that penalise a person because of where he was born. We are all made in the image and likeness of God and for that reason each person as a person anywhere has the same divine value to him, that is to say, who is my neighbour is not defined by "country".

"What is deamed illegal by a 'country' is not necessarily immoral."

By the same token, was "deamed" legal by a country, such as "forcing" someone to pay for another's food, housing, medical, transportation, education, etc., etc. is not necessarially moral. A NATION is defined by its laws. The authority to establish (an paid for) these laws comes from God through man (who is made in His image) to the government, by way of "consent of the governed" (see the meaning of sovereignty). When men come together as a NATION and forms their government, it is by agreement and understanding as to who and what constitutes citizenship. This concept has not changed since God established the Nation of Israel on the banks of the Jordan River, a NATION that He himself provided the Laws for in the Book of where in Chapter 19, the Lord states: "You shall not move your neighbor's boundary mark, which the ancestors have set, in your inheritance which you will inherit in the land that the LORD your God gives you to possess."

BTW, nowhere in the New Testament can you find where Jesus, the Christ preached that Charity was the act of taking from one neighbor, in order to give to another, less fortunate neighbor.

The "hospitality" that St. Paul states in Romans Chapter 12, reference "one another" - i.e. the "brethren" to whom his letter is addressed.

The "hospitality" shown by Melchizedek to Abraham, was paid for by Abraham (Abram) from 1/10th the "loot" which he took from Lot's captors. Nowhere is Scripture does the concept of "hospitality" mean an open invitation for "any and all" to "move right in". It was instead intended solely for the "traveling stranger", who it was assumed would moving along after being refreshed.

In 1 Timothy Chapter 5, it is obvious that "charity" was not intended for those who could care for themself, such a widow who was not yet 60 years old. The idea that you owe everyone "charity" - as in providing for their support regardless of their means, appears nowhere in Scripture.

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I imagine this article will be read by many, many more people in the coming days. And to think it was written in early February.
Great article.

SENATOR BIDEN IS NOT A "TRUE CATHOLIC". HE IS DELUDING HIMSELF, ALL FOR THE GLORY OF HIMSELF, NOT FOR GOD OR HIS COUNTRY. A TRUE CATHOLIC IS OPPOSED AGAINST ABORTION. GOD HELP US, IF OBAMA AND BIDEN GET ELECTED.

THERE HAVE BEEN ENOUGH INFANTS ABORTED!

I truly beleive that Obama and Clinton joining together is paving the way for the Anti Christ. Obama coming from the East belonging to a radical church and Clinton with her Illuminst cult pin that she wears,
Religion: All you have to do is keep God's laws.

The Catholic Church needs to speak up and give direction.
The fact that the church has changed so much in the past 30 years I question what their purpose is in these trying times.

I was raised a Catholic, and had chosen to raise my children Catholic. BUT I can no longer support a "One-Issue" Church. It is hypocrites like these bloggers who put the value of an unborn life over ANY other life that are truly driving me from the Church. Jesus preached to ALL the people -- he welcomed the sinners, the prostitutes, the tax collectors. You holier than thou people who would continue to VOTE for a Republican Candidate that stands for WAR, for the RICH, for RAPING the POOR and less fortunate are the ones "punching a ticket to HELL." Abortion would not be such an important issue if Catholics actually followed Jesus's teachings and helped the poor, embraced those among us who find themselves in a terrible situation. I am SICKENED by so-called Catholics who only vote on ABORTION!!! YOU are the people bringing down America! YOU Catholics who vote Republican only on Abortion are heralding the destruction of God's greatest creation -- our mother Earth -- and YOU will be judged by GOD for your horrible crimes -- your true sins of ommission. YOUR HANDS are stained with the blood of all those innocents who have died in Iraq... SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!! Ask yourselves this, why is a possible life worth more to you than so many millions of counteless living beings???? NONE OF YOU ARE PRO-LIFE -- you are the true evil doers of today and God will judge you and your actions.

Don't leave the Church. We need your fight and spirit. The Church has told us what to do with Doctrine and Dogma. We are the Body and we must act accordingly as individuals in concert. It is a culture of Life that includes the unborn always and that translates to a better ethic for the living.

I am Catholic.

Have you read this Article at Newsweek May 12, 2008 about McCain's association "A Turbulent Pastor" about John Hagee... who is quoted, "He called the Catholic Church, among other things, "the great whore" and "a false cult system."!

Are you sure McCain is a FRIEND to the Catholics? You may want to examine McCain more closely.
The link http://www.newsweek.com/id/135385

From my standpoint, A more comprehensive report on McCain has to be done. I don't know if I could vote for someone who possibly detest Catholics...

I believe the Church takes a stand against war and the death penalty. I question therefore, the US Catholic church's silence, especially as it relates to political campaigns on these issues. Real faith would demand, that we reject all candidates, Democrat and Republican alike. I'd hate to think the US Church has a right-leaning alterior motive.

Don't misunderstand me I support the Church's concern for the child, however contrary it might appear given the recent immoral scandal and institutionalized coverup we all witnessed in horror most recently. However, we can't pick and chose what canons we support. Maybe the Church should stay out of politics also known as give Caesar what is Caesar's .... .

Mr Hudson talks about catholic support of Clinton but asserts that Obama won't get catholic support in the primary because of his stance on abortion. He then goes on and I think in a troubling fashion and frankly distorts (wow on a catholic blog) Obama's position on abortion. The rub is that Clinton and Obama share the same beliefs and voting record on abortion. One could argue and support that Clinton is viewed in some corridors as the most dependable advocate of choice. So let's talk about the elephant in the room.... Race. I grew up in an Irish Catholic diocese in the late 60s and 70s. Racism was evident and the Church at best remained silent and at worst participated and I'm being kind.

So I say to all Catholics - war, the death penalty and abortion are wrong and Racism as stated by our Church and faith is a SIN.

I agree with Stacey (above comment). Very well written.

I am a Catholic and am voting for Barack Obama. I will have no regrets. I am a firm believer in keeping state and church separate. Fellow Catholics, worry about yoursleves, God will deal with those who you feel are wrong on judgement day.

Do you ever believe that God has his hand in all things?? Well for all you scared Republicans who think that the world will come to an end as you know it if Obama takes office, fear not. If Obama wins, it will be because God willed it. Things will be ok. Keep up with your prayers and continue to live your life the way you see fit according to your own personal beliefs. God will take care of the rest, He always does.

To Holly and Stacey, The Church isn't a Democracy. Followers
of Jesus look to the Church for directions in how to be his
faithful followers. Your just making things up for yourself
like the rest of Protestant America does. If you want to know
what the Holy Spirit wants of us it's not hard to find out -
see recent comments on the "life" issue by: the US Catholic
Conference of Catholic Bishops Pro-Life Committee (www.usccb.org/prolife/issues/abortion/index.shtml)
Archbishop Chaput of Colorado; Archbishop Vlazny of Portland, OR; Cardinal Rigali of Pennsylvania; Bishop Carlson of Michigan; Bishop Vasa of Eastern Oregon; Pope Benedict; Pope John Paul; and on, and on, and on..... It's clear what the Holy Spirit wants you to do from the teaching authority of the Church. Don't fool yourself: your vote will have eternal consequences when the stakes are this high, because there's no issue or group of issues that you can get to because in trying to reach them you get swept away by the torrent of innocent blood spilled each year in this country as 1.3 million children are brutally murdered in their own so called mother's wombs. It's a HOLOCAUST OF INHUMAN DIMENSIONS but you're like some 1943 german peering through the fence watching Jews marched into the ovens but saying something like "dat's not goot; but der's uder dings dat's even vers". It's just a diabolically nutty way of looking at things! And good luck with your story when you have to give that final accounting for your life.. wish I could be there to hear you stammer and stutter your response to God when he points out what the Church told all faithful voters about the pre-eminent issue of an Unborn Person's RIGHT TO LIFE that you are choosing to ignore. We don't get that right only if and when we successfully manage to escape our mother's womb. Come on; it's really high time you put on your thinking caps.

It's really too bad that some Catholics support Democrats like Obama and Pelosi. This just proves that some Catholics are only Catholic in name, but they do not practice these values in life.

I couldn't have said it better myself. It seems that Catholics never received proper education about their faith and are simply choosing and wanting to blend with the world since it's the easier path to social acceptance. Only, they forget that this life is temporary.

What are people going to tell God on judgement day? "God, you've got it all wrong" (sarcasm).

Catholics will do what they always do: they will first and foremost do what they are told. Since the time of Augustine (and 'St. Paul') and Tertullian, they will subvert the legitimate State and the progressive secular authorities that have , since the time of Galileo to the current flowering of Darwinian thought) , subvert the truth and society at large.

That's what Catholics do best: bitch and subvert. Because Obama has the wherewithal to reach out to Muslims, Jews and Pagans -- a trick the Pope never learned, not even in his most apologetic or ecumenic moods -- there is no doubt but that the righteous Romans will find a way to undermine his authority.

How they do it will be how they have done it everywhere else. They will undermine and divide; the Jesuitical colleges -- bastions of reaction across America and India -- will move their soldiers in the public service and in the media to set up bogus issues and false conflicts which they can monitor through their networks... As they promoted Nixon over Kennedy, Kennedy over Johnson, and Bush over Kerry, so, too, can they destroy Obama.

Already they tried to stir the international pool by having the Irish to vote 'no' to Lisbon long enough to put the validity of the EU Agreement into legal limbo during which the move to illegally install buffer missiles in Poland and aim them provocatively at Russia. In this strategy Pope Benedict XVI and George Bush and Tony Blair (and Lech Wallensa) tried to stir up tensions as a prelude to the Papacy affirming the divisions between the secular state of Russia and the 'Christian Community' of the EU.

No one chastised the Poles, late-comers to the EU, for practically declaring unilateral war on Russia. No other European country berated Barusso for allowing the Poles to take such action unilaterally and with impunity, even if they benefited from the influx of Dell jobs and other rewards. And now that Obama has spiked those tensions by refusing to go ahead with the Benedict/Blair/Bush manoeuvre, the Irish and the Poles are free to vote for membership of the EU.

The Vatican is the enemy of all democratic and free peoples. And it is up to Europe to depose the Pope, his bishops and priests, and to confront the Jesuits on an active and systematic basis. As a preliminary measure, might I suggest that all Catholic charities, domestic and international, be audited by independent auditors, and that the RCC as a whole be monitored in every educational establishment, and that the RCC pay taxes on a regular basis, declaring under a national and annual audit its real (current value) wealth and its whereabouts.

Seamus Breathnach

www.irish-criminology.com