Only the pulpit can overcome this war against the unborn. Every womb is a sacred place. It is where life is created. Each life is God's creation--created in His image. The invasion of the womb is the most intrinsically evil act known in our culture. No where else is so helpless, so God-like, so promising a life exposed to such brutality. Abortion will not be stopped until each human heart and mind understands what it is. The Catholic Church has the only right and complete message about sexuality, chastity, conjugal love and charity. Every priest who fails to teach this message is complicit in the destruction of God's creation and should lose his standing. Every Catholic politician or Bishop who fails to follow the Holy Father's guidance in this matter should be publicly denied the Eucharist, without exception. Nothing short of an all-out assault against this evil will suffice. Where are our Christian soldiers? Where are the women's hands that have proudly 'rocked the cradle' and for generations have 'ruled the world'? Have they all joined the enemy army?
I want to hear the parish priest and pastors telling us that "Catholics for Choice" have chosen not to be Catholics! I want to know for which of the 35 abortions that will be performed in my small state tomorrow those "Catholics for Choice" will be responsible--which of the women will they take into their hearts to comfort and heal? Which of the babies will they mourn? Or will they celebrate 35 successes each and every day for the next year?
And finally, I want to know: IF I am a "Catholic for Choice" do I celebrate the daily victory of my cause before or after I pray the Rosary?

I hope you Catholics who voted for Obama feel really good after reading Deals article. You wanted him, wanted to feel good about voting for him, reached out, "inclusive," bringing people together, all the meaningless words people use to try to make it ok to vote for a guy who wants to make it easy to have sex, and if one gets pregnant, have an abortion easy. Thats where the "no abstinance teaching" comes in. Why end "abstinance teaching" in schools?? If you are not wanting kids to avoid sexual relations before marriage, then you think it's ok to go for it and take care of the "mistake of a baby" (Obama's words-not mine). This guy is a Chicago thug who has the morals of Jeremiah Wright and Illinios Governor Rod Blogojavich. Its not too early for you Catholics who never were politically actice to start organizing. Lets make the Big O a one-term President !!

Several days ago I responded to Eric Pavlat's news about newly elected pro-life Democrats:



Well, some names surfaced in the comments and they ought to be contacted:


So ought Doug Kmiec.

With Obama, we pitch towards a dark doom that lurks to devour us. We must pray hard...perhaps only a sign from heaven will stop this carnage. We are promised one through the prophecies of Medjugorje and Garabandal. It must be time for us to pray that these events come to pass.

I believe it was Mother Theresa who said that any country that kills its own children has no future.

Most Catholics did not vote for Obama, so please let's get over that idea. The number that matters is people who go to Mass every week. Coming out of the polling booth and saying you're Catholic because your mama made you go to CCD does not a Catholic make.

This article reveals no surprises. Abortion is a lost cause and all we can do is fight it with hearts and minds and in incremental steps. Obama will turn a lot back, the next Republican president will flip what he or she can again. And on the cycle goes....

The best thing the Church could do is call out the Catholic Pols who have their names on FOCA. Let them go find another church, there are plenty out there who will have them.

I fear the USCCB has lost all control and authority. The bishops in this country do not speak with one voice. They can not even come together to protect the Holy Eucharist. Honestly, I'm just a regular gal sitting in the pews and I can understand the Code of Canon Law. It isn't complicated. Even Bishop Martino of Scranton said the USCCB doesn't speak for him.

This isn't to say I don't think they should bother. They should and it should be really forceful. None of the ambiguous rubbish they put in 'Faithful Citizenship'. If our leaders have any hope of regaining the confidence of faithful Catholics, they have to start somewhere. Excommunication of the Vice-President elect and Speaker of the House would be a start, assuming they refused to change their position in a very public manner. And to those who don't want the "Eucharist used as punishment", this is a huge scandal. HUGE! A priest was recently excommunicated for support of women's ordination and rightly so, but is the support of ordination of women more scandalous than support of the murder of unborn children? A cynic might suggest that this makes the Church patriarchy appear more concerned with keeping power for themselves than the lives of the unborn.

And no, I am no sympathizer with women ordination groups. But I have to wonder why excommunication is applied here when not for pro-abortion 'Catholics'. My husband, who is not Catholic and at the rate the Church leaders are going, he never will be, believes it is all about the money. He says there are far more pro-abortionists and/or socialists who don't give a fig one way or the other so long as they get their socialist agendas attended, sitting in the pews (and dropping $ in the baskets) than supporters of women priests. So far, the clergy as a whole has done very little to disabuse him of the belief. I pray the USCCB proves him wrong and in doing so, helps ease his skepticism about the Church in the process. Not to mention saving the souls of those who are being scandalized by their failure to defend life more forcefully.

I have to disagree, Ann. I live in a very conservative area of the country, though not very Catholic, and I have to say that the only people I personally know who voted for Obama are Mass attending Catholics. They are also some of the most active parents in my children's parochial school. They are definitely in the minority of active Catholics, but 17% of the children in our school voted for Obama in the mock election that was held there. (indicating how their parents actually voted) Again, this is a very conservative area so I can only guess that the numbers would be higher in more traditionally liberal areas, where there are also higher percentages of Catholics. They may not be orthodox, but they still attend Mass.

When you have deacons preaching that health insurance is a 'right' from the pulpit, not healthcare, but insurance, and almost never hear the words unborn or respect for human life, it is little wonder many are confused about voting. This is a failure of our priests and bishops. It must be corrected.

Dear Catholic Bishops, please display pictures, or chart, of actual size of unborn babies, in nine different stages, in the lobbies of all Catholic schools and colleges, also in the lobbies of the Catholic churches together with the image of the Virgin of Guadalupe.
Will Protestants emulate this Catholic move? Yes, except for the image of the Virgin of Guadalupe.

Dear concerned Catholics, please pass this idea to your respective bishops. Thank you and may God bless you.

P.S. Will this display save babies? Of course. No doubt about it. Is it worth it? Saving a life is greater than all the money in the world.

Oh yes, Pamela, I am not saying Catholics didn't vote for Obama, and even "devout" ones at that, but that if you look at the numbers, 54% of those who identify as Catholic voted for Obama, but if you drill down, it drops to 45% for those who go to Mass each week.

I couldn't agree more. If they were to do that, people will leave the Church in swarms, along with power.

So, the way to save our econmy is to pour billions of dollars into abortion clinics. That makes sense?
In the meantime, the people who want to live and could use money for heart transplant/surgeries, and various other terminal illnesses will NOT receive any funding because Obama's #1 priority is throwing money away on abortion.
These women should learn to keep their legs crossed, but I forgot, to the liberal thinking, a women should sleep around and if she gets pregnant as a consequence to her own choice of action, she should just have an abortion and carry on.
These stupid people don't see that this is governments way of killing people. You won't find these government people's kids having abortions. As a matter of fact, they make every effort to multiply so there would be more of them and less of us! When will people wake up and see what's really going on? If Obama's mother had an abortion, he would have never been born and be the first black president today. Think of all the other future leaders and influence that could have made a difference but were not given that choice.

The whole focus of abortion seems to be on women. Perhaps the clergy needs to start focusing on the actions of the men who impregnate these women. I never hear any priests put any responsibility on men.

Ann (#9) wrote: "Oh yes, Pamela, I am not saying Catholics didn't vote for Obama, and even "devout" ones at that, but that if you look at the numbers, 54% of those who identify as Catholic voted for Obama, but if you drill down, it drops to 45% for those who go to Mass each week."

This does NOT encourage me in the least, as it means that almost half of weekly Mass attending Catholics voted for the most radical pro-abortion national politician in US history. Then again, the vast majority of weekly Mass attending Catholics ignore Church teaching on birth control, so what should I expect?

Contrary to what I keep reading and hearing, the problem is NOT that Catholics don't know Church teaching. The problem is that they believe it's okay for them to disregard it. Which is a nice way of saying that a huge percentage of so-called "Catholics" feel free to ignore what the Church tells them in regards to faith and morals, which means they really aren't Catholics to begin with. They're Protestants who like bongo music and cool looking vestments, perhaps, but they're not Catholics. And, the fact that so many of our Bishops don't have the courage to do what needs to be done to correct the situation (like get rid of all these dissenting priests, for example) only compounds the problem.

It's time for a house-cleaning. Let the chastisement begin (oh, wait, we're already in it).

And in related news, the Vatican is being sued for covering up pedophilia.

The most dangerous place in the world today - it is not Afghanistan, it is not Iraq, It is not the Middle East. The most dangerous place in the world today is the Womb. America elected its First Black President who has declared an open door for the MURDER OF GENERATIONS OF AMERICANS and the largest group of these MURDERED generations will be Black. The blood will flow like a river from these Death Houses. The Great Nation of America has fallen lower than old Rome shame on you America Shame on You.

How Dare You Judge Our Priests!!
You Could Write to Your Local Politician, You Can Make a Peaceful Protest, You Can Boycott.. There Is Much You Can Do!! Yet You Blame Our Priests!!??
Catholics Had Free Will, Yet They Voted Obama IN!!
So You Pass The Buck and Blame Our Priests!!??
SO Easy To Blame Our Priests Isn't It and Not Yourself!!
Let's See What Else Can we put Blame Our Priests For,?? The War In iraq, Stem Cell Cloning, Abortion??
When You Attack Our Priests, Do You Stop to Think About GOD, It's So Easy to Blame a Man Of the Cloth, Let Them The Ordained Men Of GOD Take The Blame, Easy to Do So:
As a Priest will Not Attack You When You attack Them..
They Will Pray For You..
Such an Easy target to Blame a Man of GOD
who is your master

One thing that I have never seen in conjunction with the discussion of pro-life is a visual graphic of the generations that would normally grow from one single person's birth when or if they procreate. In other words, let people see just how many future generations one single solitary abortion wipes out from the world or from the USA! I really don't think most people who have abortions have ever been faced with that reality or given it much thought. A visual may just cause people to stop and to think before they consider the option if it is being done just to eliminate what appears as a single hunan being in their minds. We all know that Abortion for any reason is wrong if we have any conscience at all however this would be another graphic way of looking at it as a visual reminder of the monumental travesty they are really causing! In other words they are not killing one human but preventing future generations to be totally wiped out! It is monstrous when you think of it that way.

I agree, 45% is not good, but it's better than the 55% that is constantly quoted in the media to Obama's favor.

Some Catholics don't leave because they are not made uncomfortable enough. They would, and they do when they are "reminded."

Don't worry. The National Catholic Reporter tells us that FOCA can't pass:

http://tinyurl.com/69f7qx

Feel better?

That's so sad that people use this excuse! They think it's okay to abort a "blob of tissue" because it's "a part of MY body", as if it's an ear you want to get pierced, or a liposuction surgery you want to get done. It's not "part of your body"! How can it be when 50% of the time it's a male? Even most abortionists KNOW it's a little human being. How can they not? They see the body parts of the precious little ones that they extract from the woman during an abortion. They know it's not just tissue. What liars! God have mercy....

Response to N.M. above. Blame?? Well, maybe hold accountable; how's that? The meaning is the same. Our priests and bishops are Guilty of being luke warm. Remember what Jesus said about being luke warm? The Catholic clergy of this country is embarrasingly liberal, meaning Democrat. That means they support the Democratic platform, which includes abortion and homosexuality. Our priests and bishops are a disgrace to our religion. We wouldn't want them to preach about things that matter, now would we? Those things might make some parishoners angry and stop puting money into the basket. Or, better yet, they might cross the line of 'seperation of church and state'. As a whole, our priests and bishops are a bunch of whimps! They feed us pabulum each and every Sunday so as not to offend anyone. How often do we hear about the evils of abortion, homosexuality, fornication, etc.? Blame priests? Well, maybe we should pray for their conversion and if that doesn't work pray for their removal. Yes, in the end, we are responsible for who we vote for but we look to our priests and bishops for moral guidance and they have failed us miserably. Shame on them.

It would be great to see a plan of pro-action(even a call to prayer)from our bishops. The current situation has to remind one of the lack of action during the Protestant reformation - how long did those Catholics have to wait for the Council of Trent to take action?

Keep praying!!!!!

Cotton

of the many mistakes our nation's leaders can or might possibly make, expanding the abortion/pre-born baby killing means and access would be the absolute worst . . . there are cosmic consequences which follow as innate both within "the natural law" (God's law written into the essence of nature and on the heart of man as well) and within the "Divine Law" (nothing goes against BOTH of the two great commandments "love God and love your neighbor" as does the murder of the most dependent and helpless pre-born babies.

an old expression goes; "don't tempt God" . . . God IS merciful . . and God is infinitely merciful . . . but God cannot and will not be long mocked . . . His "truth" and reality will be learned by man without any doubt whatsoever . . .

the Nazi's and the atheistic Communists had their "moment of power", but that power was vacuous and eveaporated and dissipated and crumbled into the dust of history . . . they ran extermination camps and gulags . . .our culture operates more clinically, yet with the same ends and purposes - the death of many at the leasure of some others, in this case of pre-born infants . . .since all life comes from the creating and gifting hand of God, will God long permit this to continue? . . . as Pharaoh learned in his pursuit of Moses and the Israelites into the Red Sea, God was with His children . . . and is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow . . .

any nation's leaders would do well to heed the two great commandments: first, love the Lord God (not defy God) and love your neighbor as yourself (not abort and kill your neighbor as an act of perverted "compassion") . . . if they do this, God will doubtless bless . . .if they defy this, God may withdraw His protective hand and leave us at the mercy of those who despise us . . .

pray for our government leaders to learn wisdom . . and humility as they excercise their official service to the people . . .

Just one more opinion: I am a pro-lifer who protests at our local abortion mill. It is Auschwitz all over again; the SS troops arrive with the women, whisk them through the door, protecting them from hearing the pleas of street counselors to save their child's life. Once inside the killing chamber, the violence begins. It doesn't matter what gestation; one arrival looked to be five or more months; no amusement park could think up a house of horrors like this --it doesn't matter that the baby is fully alive with all its own personality and parts as the tools enter the womb, it is cut up suctioned and thrown out. Even animals don't engage in such barbery.

The trains of Jews passed the houses of the Germans as they went to their deaths in the concentration camps. It is the same today only this time it is innocent babies. The people in the pews or the radical feminists with the vagina posers, it doesn't matter. The consciences of the people are silenced.
Abortion is not a political issue, it is a sin, pure and simple.

This is all part of the plan, folks. Read Pat Buchanan's "Death of the West", particularly the chapter entitled "Four Whom Made a Revolution" and David Rockefeller's "Memoirs", especially the chapter "Proud Globalist". Also, check out www.constitutionparty.com. Wake up, folks. There is life beyond the television. Television is not the truth. Blessings.

Though we must continue to ardently strive to right the wrong of the pro-abortion supporter,I suspect that those who voted a pro-abortion agenda lose sight of the fact that God will judge. I agree that those high profile supporters of abortions should suffer excommunication. I really do not concern myself with those who would leave the church. We, after all, are the ones with free will--a gift from God. But remember the church doesn't leave the individual the individual chooses to leave the church. "Many are called, but few are chosen." I know where I choose to stand when Jesus comes to judge me.

I pray Mary's Seven Sorrows every day for the defeat of the FOCA bill. This prayer is very powerful, and has answered my prayers even immediately.

50 yrs ago the Archbishop of Cincinnati testified and canonically approved the BVM's private revelation to
Sr Myriam Ephrem (Neusel)about America's vocation in the world: if the nation's bishops would collegially install her statue in the then new basilica, she would make it like another Lourdes, healing and converting the people back to God and morals so they could live out their vocation to use the unprecedented temporal blessing given by God to help other nations with their temporal problems while witnessing to moral purity of life and love in our youth as ambassadors of good will and family life under God. If this was not done, there would be much pain. So the bishops IMPLY IGNORED THE IMPRESSIVE TESTIMONY OF ONE OF THEIR OWN BISHOPS and just on cue a series of painful events started int the early '60's so that 50 years later the EXACT OPPOSITE of what BVM promissed has occurred. See what happens when bishops fail to discern or simply ignore such a striking message from Heaven! Like Ruanda where likewise the bishops were paralized in unable to discern what was to come. Well, now only the severe events soon to come will purify everybody in the Church before the Victory of the BVM will princg supernatural Era of Peace promised by the also insufficiently accepted though approved Fatima PUBLIC PROPHECY through provate revelation. TOO LITTLE TOO LATE and we have at root the bishops' 50 yrs ignoring Heaven's tailor made communication to us. As the captains of the ships, so the mates and the hapless passengers! Painful transition through to the Era of Peace. It didn't have to be this way, but then, the papacy managed to not comply with OL of FATIMA and we got WWII!

Re #22 Cotton and the comment to keep praying.....we are blessed in our parish to have strongly and unapologetically pro-life leaders in our priest and deacons. One of our deacons, in concert with a friend in prison ministry, has come up with a prayer and fasting campaign. It's called Esther's Way for the Old Testament Esther - http://www.myspace.com/esthersway
is the link to the site about it.

A call to committed CHristians of every denomination,
Through prayer and fasting,
In harmony with your ability according to your design
Every Wednesday,
For the sanctity of life
For the sanctity of marriage
For the reclamation of our nation.

For such a time as this
Esther Ch.4

please consider adding your prayers and sacrifices

"BY THY HOLY AND IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, O MARY, DELIVER US FROM EVIL."--Prophetic Prayer taught by Our Lady of America to Sister Mary Ephrem, Convent of the Sisters of the Precious Blood, Rome City, Indiana, 1956. (www.OurLadyofAmerica.org)

For those who are surprised at the lukewarm attempts to fight for moral values we grew up with I say "where have you been?" As long as the family is looked upon as a convenience and not essential to our existence there will be contraceptives and abortions. The supreme court will bring us to the brink of destruction one way or another. You can't devalue any life without devaluing ALL life. On the agenda are - euthanasia, assisted suicide, sterilization of the unfit, same sex marriage, you name it. I promise you will see it all if you live long enough.

No one should feel that they are powerless to bring an end to abortion. We have a weapon to defeat any evil in the world. It is the most powerful force in the world... IT IS CALLED PRAYER! "HEAVEN IS FILLED WITH ANSWERS TO PRAYERS FOR WHICH NO ONE EVER BOTHERED TO ASK." Let's stop casting aspersions, blaming others, being judgmental and sounding hopeless. If enough people of faith and good will would pray for an end to abortion and also pray for the conversion of those who support and/or promote abortion, then it would end. Be part of the solution.

If Catholics are embracing laws and moral principles that violate the sanctity of life they then place themselves in a state of mortal sin. If the sin is not reconciled they are consequently subjecting themselves to the state of being abandoned or forsaken as they are incapable of being in communion with Christ, thus have life in Christ. In essence the act of supporting the destruction of life, if not reconciled, becomes an obstruction of eternal life. It is that simple.

The enemy of man has one objective. Keeping man from being in communion with Christ. It is his objective to show God that man is unworthy of recieving His love. In humanity's willingness to poison, mangle, incinerate, tear apart, decapitate and ultimately destroy their own at the most innocent stage of existence in the most vile and heinous fashion is proof that the enemy is meeting his objective. And yet, even in our complacency to allow for the perpetuation of horror that is abortion, God will still embrace us, be in communion with us, if we reconcile that we have sinned, that we each share in the stains caused by abortion.

Abortion has become so gross in it's enormity that each person is affected by it and thus guilty, to some degree, of its sinfulness. It's non-justifiable. If we consider that 1 billion fetuses have been murdered world-wide in just the last 100 years and that the immediate future implies for even a greater toll then what might the spiritual tax be that we each must pay for these atrocities?

Is there a tax if we reconcile ourselves to the fact that we're guilty for allowing this holocaust?

The general interpretation of the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is rejection of Christ. Could abortion be a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?

Consider the definition for blasphemy;
1a. A contemtuous or profane act, utterance or writing concerning God or a sacred entity.
1b. The act of claiming for oneself the attributes and rights of God.
2. An irreverant or impious act, attitude or utterance in regard to something considered inviolable or sacrosant.

According to this definition abortion is blasphemous. Now consider the teachings that God breathed life into man and that the Spirit of the Lord exists in man and how the Holy Spirit came upon the blessed Mother. The Holy Spirit is the provider of life, including providing the life of the savior of mankind.

In abortion humanity not only rejects life, but, does so in the most violent, traumatic and criminal way conceivable. In mankind's willingness to condone abortion it expresses a willingness to reject the savior of mankind. It's not plausible to discriminate between one pregnancy, our Lord in the blessed mother, from another, our present day neighbor. How can we justify an expectation that God will have us reborn into a spiritual existence if we are willing to exterimate those from being born into our physical existence. There is no rational to expect the promise of salvation except our understanding of receiving forgiveness through the sacrifice of our Lord. However, if we don't seek forgiveness for abortion how can we expect forgiveness and thus salvation.

Humanity's rejection of the unborn by means of abortion is indirectly a rejection of our Lord Jesus Christ and thus blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. If we don't seek reconciliation for our failures to protect the unborn then we shouldn't expect to be in communion with our Lord.

Without God there would be no bodies and no souls to share existence. They are God's gift to us and we should act in partnership with God in seeing that we keep our bodies healthy and serving the purpose of continuing creation to further generations. When new life begins, our bodies serve a glorious purpose in harmony with The Creator. It is never just our rights and our choice alone. Life is not created for this world but to share eternity in God's kingdom.

Pray and don't worry

Why Did American Catholics Vote for a Baby Murderer?
Dont You Love GOD?
Why Did You Forsake HIM.

I am aware that the late Tim Russert was Catholic, as
are Chris Matthews (MSNBC) and Sean Hannity of Fox. I have
never heard of any series being done on the abortion. I am
sure some of you have read and witnessed the grizzly details
on abortion, how unsafe it really is and killed or seriously
injured some women having one. One pro life website acutally
showed an aboriton take place--NOT AN ULTRASOUND.
All media reports accuse the prolife protesters exclusively
of violence. Arrests and imprisonment of prolifers is
ignored. The media says NOTHING!! Somewhere, somehow,
access to the mainstream media has to occur, and the full
story of abortion, its founders, the proceeders, and the
money has to be exposed, no matter how shocking the seens.

THE POLITICIANS WHO PUBLICLY SUPPORT ABORTION NEED TO BE PUBLICLY EXCOMMUNICATED. THAT'S IT. People thought I was wishing Ted Kennedy dead when I mentioned this before but, in general, pro-abortion politicians are going to be 'meeting their maker' more and more (their age tells us this). Are they going to get a PUBLIC FUNERAL IF THEY HAVEN'T PUBLICLY RENOUNCED THEIR STAND FOR THE CULTURE OF DEATH?

Dear posters, I invite you to the following action plan and invite you to do the same with others. Fr. John Hardon, SJ, said that the only way to fight abortion was with the Eucharist. So will you kindly make time in your busy schedules (if you already do so, GOD BLESS YOU!): go to daily Mass, go to Adoration 1 hour per week, pray 4 rosaries per day, go to confession at least once a month, fast on Wed and Fridays, and read Sacred Scripture. Can we not give up 3 hours a day for prayer? I challenge you to DO this and spread the message. It only takes the light of one candle to light a church....think about the Easter Vigil in our churches. One light becomes many. Thank you

To #36 -

Many said they voted for Obama because of the economy.

A MODERN DAY 30 PIECES OF SILVER, PERHAPS?

OF MAYBE THEY HAVE CHOSEN satan's PROMISE THAT he would give ALL THE KINGDOMS OF THE WORLD IF ONE WOULD JUST FALL DOWN AND WORSHIP him: THE FATHER OF LIES, WHO WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING....

Spot On Maureen!!
People who "Love GOD."
Voted for satan and his false promises

Please note that there is one truth. That is it is absolutely critical to believe in the 10 Commandments.
And, Number 5 for all Christians is "Thou Shalt Not Kill."

Think Of Saint Thomas More.
He Would Not Accept The "Marriage" Between King Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn.
As With John The Baptist he Publicly Denounced the Marriage of King herod and his brother's wife.
John The Baptist Was Imprisioned And Beheaded.
Saint Thomas More Suffered The Same Fate.
Faith Of Our Father's Living Still In Spite Of Dungeon Fire And Sword.
Do Not Be Afraid to Speak Up Against Injustices.
GOD Bless You..

We had a deacon at my parish tell us (not from the pulpit) that the priesthood has changed (priests are not as religious and dedicated as they used to be) so we had to make allowances. However, he also said that we (the parishioners) had to do all the work at converting people. And we had to do it using compassion. Now I will say the parishioners need to work at converting people more to the pro-life cause but I do not think it should excuse the priests and deacons from addressing it from the pulpit.

Welcome to the Beginning of the End!

Seems Like It's Open Season on Priest bashing in Here.
For The Feminists, This Is Your Forum For getting "Even" With Priests For Not Allowing You Abortion, Divorce, Women Priests, Gay Marriage Ect.
Let's All blame Priests For Everything.
In Reply to Patricia:
"We had a deacon at my parish tell us (not from the pulpit) that the priesthood has changed (priests are not as religious and dedicated as they used to be) so we had to make allowances."
I Wish This "Deacon," Would Have Said This to a Priest!!
Especially My Parish Priest!

I recently caught the end of a program about Genocide around the world by CNN news anchorwoman Christiana Amanpour (sp) winner of countless awards. I thought to myself...she has left out the silent genocide happening in America every day--murder of innocent babies in the womb. Her report was incomplete. 50 million of our progeny (and counting) are crying out to God for justice. How could she miss this horrific genocide??

That a large portion of Americans do not see the genocide is because it has been cloaked in deceptive language; but a root cause is that a nation (or world) steeped in immoral sin is blinded by that very sin. They have hearts of stone.

In the Belleville diocese of southern IL we had 46 dissident priests plot during the Easter Octave of this year and sign a letter addressed to the Papal Nuncio Pietro Sambi, to get rid of an orthodox Bishop appointed by Pope John Paul II a short time before his death. The Bishop was even threatened by phone at his residence and on his installation day a dissident layity/priest group called FOSIL (an affiliate of Call To Action) protested across the street.
A Call to Action started in Chicago over 30 years ago-- I guess Chicago is not only a bed of political corruption, but ecclesical, as well. Fr. Plegher certainly gets away with "murder" as he endangers the souls entrusted to him with the false "gospel" of Black Liberation Theology.

The priests in my immediate Cluster all voted for Obama; as they did for Kerry in 2004. Peace & social justice advocates, you know. My parrish has not seen a priestly vocation in over 100 years. I guess youth here see nothing of value worth immitaing in these liberal priests. There *were pictures of babies in the foyer during the election...hung directly over the church bulletin racks...but an Obama sticker on almost every car in the church parking lot there for Sunday Mass. Eucharistic ministers, parishioners on the board of Catholic Social Services...even the local director unanimously supported Obama.
The "seamless garment" defense turned all issues into one relativistic jumble. Everyone bought into the liberal news; hated Bush & the Iraq War; wanted change--fewer voted morally or cared about sanctity of life, while everyone chose Obama, the candidate who seems to have no moral conscience.

Yet these parishioners go on serving God by leading Rosary groups and busily doing charitable works like Christmas gift-giving to people at the nursing home...while simultaneously suporting the violence of baby murdering in their hearts.
"We can vote for a candidate who advocates abortion as long as we are voting for their stance on different issues other than abortion." How convenient a defense, but will God accept it? See how they deceive themselves and cause grave scandal within Christ's Church. They have chosen to follow the Deceiver. The tares among the wheat are becoming more distinguishable.

I am always confused as to how long God tolerates an abomination. Yes, we should be praying contantly, but perhaps the focus of these prayers must change from hope of deliverance from the pestilence of abortion to perseverance of the inevitable chastisement & suffering we now must enter as a consequence of continued disobedience. Our Lady of America may no longer be able to stay the hand of her Son's justice in His mercy.

In 1981, Pfleger adopted an eight-year-old son, Lamar, in defiance of Cardinal John Patrick Cody, who had threatened to fire him if he went ahead with the adoption. Pfleger adopted another son, Beronti, who currently attends the University of Central Florida. In 1997.
Huh A Priest Cannot Adopt??
This Priest Defied Cardinal John Patrick Cody.
If Fr. Pfleger a Roman Catholic Priest??
Please Would Someone Explain this Fr. Pfleger to me
A Priest Adopting?? HUH What!!

To those who are ridiculing us for criticizing priests, I must say on some level I agree with you. I can remember when I was a little girl, my father had an absolute fit when he got home from somewhere. He'd been in a discussion with some men and one of them had been a parishioner at our church. This man had said something critical of our parish priest. The thing that had my father irate was that the man had done so in front of non-Catholics. Daddy said, "You may not like him, you may not agree with him on everything he does, but you don't criticize him in public! He's a priest!"

The fact of the matter is, the priesthood has taken a horrible beating the past several years, sadly brought on by many inside the Church. It changed even my father's view, though I believe at his age, he has been so devastated by the failings of Church leaders in handling the crisis, he rarely speaks of it at all.

The worst part of all this, is what it has done to the wonderful, FAITHFUL priests that are out there. Please understand that I know there are some. I thank God for them, and pray he blesses them with continued strength and wisdom and that he gives us more like them. We so desperately need them. However, that doesn't change the fact that there are many, many who have either not been trained properly, or simply have no business being priests to start with. A friend of mine wanted to get First Friday Adoration at our children's school. The priest there told her, "You know, that's just a devotional." Just a devotional? Clearly from the many posts here, this is not an isolated case. They are failing their flocks and their own souls in the process. Should we ignore this and keep quiet so we are not being critical of priests? Would that not be a failure on our own part to do what we are supposed to do?

However, I will try to remember to point out my thanks for the faithful priests when commenting. It really is only fair, and they deserve our support. Theirs is not an easy lot these days, if it ever has been. God bless them.

Maybe we need to place a little bit of blame on the Republicans and their policies too.

If they cared even one bit for the working class, maybe Obama wouldn't have been swept into office in an act of desperation.

Never Ever Talk badly about a Priest:
They are There for Us 24/7
They Dedicated their Lives to God and to Us.
You want to Priest bash??
then You are making satan so happy

I totally agree with Pamela about there being some good & holy priests for which I am truly grateful and which I seek out in my area...but the fact can not be ignored that Humanae Vite of 1968 fractured not only the laity, but first & foremost the priesthood. Those following "the spirit of Vatican II" have veered apart from the wisdom of Church teaching under a mistaken notion of compassion & tolerance. These priests sincerely believe themselves to be good-hearted in their askew beliefs & actions, but sadly they are sincerely misled.

In I Timothy there is a scripture passage that says in the last days there will be those who are harming the Church, but believe that they are helping Her...."in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils: speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;....continue in the doctrines of truth and you will save yourselves & those who heed you.

Catholics need to know & properly understand their faith (in-depth catechism) and Scripture to discern if what their priest is saying & doing is in accord with the Catholic faith; the fullest expression of the Christian faith--Truth. We follow Jesus and while He instituted the priesthood has a necessary part of our receiving Himself (eternal nourishment)...any teaching they offer should only be received by the laity if it supports & builds up Jesus' own teaching.

Ann, there are people to blame from both political parties concerning greed & lack of care for the vulnerable of society, but there is a fundamental difference of a platform dedicated to birth/life & family rights within the Republican platform which gives greater freedom to families and not the state.

I care for a quadriplegic person who is considered financially a "ward of the state" which prohibits them from the even the most basic privilege of marriage. I'm sure he didn't realize that a near fatal car accident would strip him of the most basic of human rights; to show love to another. That's big Govt. for you; they get to call all the shots and before long a person's life in not really their own with choices greatly diminished.

The plan is exactly, sadly, as anticipated by those who were paying attention.

The upcoming union of the already-existing Democrat domination of Congress with a new Democrat domination of the White House (and possibly, if the wrong man becomes ill in the next four years, of the Supreme Court) will be a sort of Herodian crime against infants magnified to civilizational scale. One wants to use the term "genocide" to describe it, because that particular sin is one of the few whose horror retains the correct magnitude in the modern mind. But of course infanticide affects all the families of man, even if it is admittedly used disproportionally on the dark-skinned, so although the horror is fitting, the definition is a mismatch.

So here we are. It will be bad.

But everyone, keep in mind: We aren't authorized to use force even against those who murder the innocent. It would be one thing to use force to defend innocent life (including your own) the gravest extreme beyond help of law enforcement (i.e., of just authority). But here the authority is all on the wrong side, and it is that (as expressed in our laws and jurisprudence) we must change.

So, nobody go shooting anyone, please.

I feel silly even saying that, of course. 99.9% of those reading this thread didn't need to be told that. No one posting seems to have needed it to be said, for example.

But I do worry, occasionally, about the 0.1%. People can be overly excitable, even in response to perfectly justifiable rhetoric.

The pro-life movement has the moral high ground, even if that fact is not obvious to the modern, secularized, blinded intellect.

So let's make sure that while, sparing no effort to end this injustice, we keep the moral high ground.

'Nuff said.

While I'm at it, put me on the list of those who:

1. Advocate denying communion to any national politician who identifies with a party with pro-choice language in its national platform, unless they're unstinting public crusaders for changing that platform;

2. Advocate denying communion to any politician at any level who does not publicly and clearly advocate a pro-life position, unless his office is one where life issues could not ever, under any conceivable circumstances, be influenced by his office (the elected dogcatcher of Coweta County, GA is except; the sheriff is not); and,

3. Wish to hear it preached that parishoners must receive the Sacrament of Penance after voting for a known pro-choice politician, prior to receiving communion, to avoid eating/drinking condemnation on themselves.

I can't see any better witness for the Church than this, especially in the eyes of separated brethren who, though they may not have the fullness, still take Scripture very seriously.

After all, if the Church would send away a man for sleeping with his father's wife (1 Cor 5), what discipline is appropriate for "those inside the church" for complicity in the deaths of thirty million innocents?

Not waving a firebrand, here. Just keeping it carefully in perspective.

Genocide: systematic destruction of a racial or cultural group.

The group are embryos (children who will mature into adult human beings)who encompass all cultures worldwide. Regardless of race; God the Creator of all life does not regard skin color/race--they are human babies & the crowning of His creation. Murder of these innocents are an abomination in His sight; He will render justice in His own perfect time.

The abortion industry is pro-active targeting people of color; Black, Hispanic, American Indian...in this nation. Abortion is about racism, greed, money for profit and accelerated death so as to control poor populations and "quality" of life for the affluent. But just as domestic violence spans all ethnic, gender & financial strata...so does the violence of abortion.

There is an account of a Hebrew man in the Old Testament whose brother died. By custom/law it was his duty to produce heirs for his brothers family by having relations with his brother's widow. He did not want any heirs to rival his own progeny so he spilled his potential life-producing "seed" upon the ground wasting it. As an immediate consequence, the Lord God required his life from him for this selfish act against his duty to his kinsman brother. God is serious about procreation; kinsman duty & moral conduct. God struck him dead. The Lord told Noah & his family after the great flood to increase & multiply on the earth and he hasn't changed His mind.

To whom much is given much is required. This encompasses both clergy (most especially Shepherds: Bishops & priests) and leaders of Nation; God's stewards. They will answer to God for their misdeeds; they will be held to a higher standard because they had charge over God's people. Have mercy, Lord.

Ann-

The democrats are not the democrats of old. EVERY AREA THAT IS DEMOCRATICALLY CONTROLLED HAS POTHOLES GALORE, AND PEOPLE FINANCIALLY CHALLENGED. The republicans are the new democrats.
They aren't perfect but they haven't ABANDONED MORALITY LIKE THE DEMOCRATS HAVE. THE DEMOCRATS CRUSH PEOPLE WITH TAXES AND OVER LEGISLATION.

Teresa,
My only point was that I don't think the Republicans are blameless for this loss. Appearing not to care about working people is one area they could work on.

Let's clarify one thing: 54% of voting Catholics voted for Obama in spite of the fact that many of our Bishops said there was no possible reason to do so in view of the heinous nature of Abortion and Euthasia.

So don't hide your guilty consciences (and if they aren't guilty, you definitely didn't form them correctly) in other moral issues, too many Popes and outspoken Bishops have spoken clearly about the necessity to stop Abortion.

Would the Jews in Auschwitz have voted Hitler another term in that he knew how to build good highways (the AutoBahn) and bring Germany out of a depression?----No, clearly No----so quite lying to yourselves and the Church those of you who voted for this monster!!! When the bishops are forced to close the Catholic Hospitals rather than perform Abortions, will that wake you up? Or, will Obama have to start loading you all on Cattle Cars for not being totally in compliance with secular pagan ideas----will you wake up then? I fear you won't !!!!

joej

The poster boys for the coming Democratic rule in our nation (and I do mean "rule") should be Nero and Caligula.

Anyone like "O" who wouldn't even bring the "Born Alive" Law to the floor of the Illinois Senate, stopping it four times, will effectively murder more babies (4000 a day)than Caligula killed Christians !!! And all of you Pro-Obama Catholics should end every day washing your hands in blood, any chicken blood or animals blood will do, to remind yourselves of the blood of the innocents for which you will stand responsible before Almighty God-----and may His Justice prevail.

joej

I agree with you Rose. I observe that our Catholic priests are so cold denouncing abortion in the church's homilies. Abortion is evil. Our priests should be brave and bold enough!!!